Genealogy of Karl Johann Friedrich Ludwig SCHREIB * 26 Mar 1869

Father: Christian Carl August SCHREIB (*20 May 1828 )
Mother: Louise Johanna ABEL (*2 Jun 1830 +1 Dec 1871)

Karl Johann Friedrich Ludwig SCHREIB (*26 Mar 1869 +16 Aug 1955)

Karl Schreib

BIRTH: 26 Mar 1869 [86] [87] [88]
CHRISTENING: 11 Apr 1869 [89]
DEATH: 16 Aug 1955 [90]
BURIAL: 1955
EVENT: Occupation: [92]
EVENT: Military: 3 Oct 1889 [93]
EVENT: Military: 23 Nov 1891 [94]
EVENT: Military: 10 Sep 1892 [95]
EVENT: Military: 21 Sep 1892 [96]
EVENT: Military: 19 Oct 1892 [97]
EVENT: Military: 21 Sep 1893 [98]
EVENT: Military: 24 Dec 1895 [99]
EVENT: Military: 1 Apr 1897 [100]
EVENT: Painter
Occupation: 21 Jun 1897 [101]
EVENT: Military: 10 Jan 1899 [102]
EVENT: Military: 24 Jan 1901 [103]
EVENT: Military: 3 Aug 1901 [104]
EVENT: Military: 17 Oct 1901 [105]
EVENT: Machinist
Occupation: 29 Oct 1901 [106]
EVENT: Builder
Occupation: 7 Nov 1901 [107]
EVENT: Machinist
Occupation: 27 Sep 1902
EVENT: Military: 21 Jan 1904 [108]
EVENT: Military: 17 Oct 1905 [109]
EVENT: Naturalization: 15 Nov 1905 [110]
EVENT: Military: 22 Aug 1907 [111]

Wife 1 : Anna Margaretha STANG

MARRIAGE: 31 Jul 1897

Children

+Martha Louise Josephine SCHREIB (*6 Jun 1899 +20 Jun 1984)

[91] Born at 15:30

Godparents
1) Gragert (Zimmermann)
2) Friedrich Brau (Bahnwärter)
3) Luis Ne??e (Drechsler) [could be Nesse or Neame or Nerze]
4) Dorothee Gennburg (Jungfrau)
5) Marie Krafack (Jungfrau)

Baptised by father Gebauer 11 April 1869

Military service:

Started service: 3 October 1889
Company: 2nd Rheinischen Husarn
Squadron: Regiment No. 9
Battery: 1 Squadron

23 November 1891 promoted to Lance Corporal (Gefreiter)

Training: Carbine 88 1st class shot.
Purple Cachet.

Name is painted on pipe in possession of Dale Schultz his great grandson.

Learnt Farrier trade whilst in the army.

10 September 1892 Discharged at Trier, Germany Discharge number Roll: 32 for 1889
Reserve: Purple Cachet of Royal Prussian District Commando 2, Altona.
Reported at Perleberg 21 September 1892. Two years leave given until 1894
19 October 1892 under control of Army Corps, Perleberg

Moved to Lockstedt (Lokstedt) near Altona by Meinhart 12 Dec 1892

25 January 1893 & 29 January 1893

On February 27, 1893 on the ship Moravia which sailed from Cuxhaven to New York

0015. Wiese, Joh. M 20y German Prussia
0016. Schreib, Carl M 23y German Prussia

(Wiese is the surname of the spouses of two of his siblings!)

21 September 1893 leave granted for 2 years to 25 January 1895

Did Blacksmith apprenticeship in New York in 1890's where he met his wife.

24 December 1895 leave granted until 25 January 1897

On 27 June1896 he went from Hamburg, Germany via Southhampton to South Africa on the steamship Goth

Departure record from Hamburg:
Surname: Schreib
Given Name: Carl
Age in Years: 27
Attendant Family Members: none
Place of Residence: Hamburg
(Federal) State of Origin:
Profession: Maler
Passanger Number: 07.0007
Passage Number: B1896.0181
Accomodation: 3. Klasse
Date of Departure: 21.06.1896
Destination of Ship: Southampton (Südafrika via Southampton)
Name of Ship: Goth
Ship Type: Dampfschiff
Agent: John Suhr & J. F. M. Classen
Country Flag of Ship: Großbritannien
Name of Captain: Bremner

6 February 1897 leave granted until 6 February 1899

1 April 1897 transferred to Landwehr

His wife came from USA to South Africa in July 1897.

31 July 1897 Married

10 January 1899 granted leave outside of Europe until 6 February 1901

ca February 1900, 8 months after daughter was born, his wife and daughter moved to Wilsnack, Germany and Karl Schreib followed when the Modderfontein dynamite factory closed because of the Boer War (1899-1902).

1900
After 1 week in Wilsnack they went to New York where they ran a boarding house.

24 January 1901 Reported at Wittenberge
3 August 1901 Reported at Wittenberge

17 October 1901 at Perleberg

Departure information from Hamburg:
Surname: Schreib
Given Name: Carl
Age in Years: 32
Attendant Family Members: yes
Nationality: Brandenburg
Place of Residence: Wittenberge
Profession: Maschinenbauer
Passanger Number: 01.0079
Passage Number: A1901.0383
Accomodation: Zwischendeck
Date of Departure: 29.10.1901
Destination of Ship: Southampton; Cherbourg; New York
Name of Ship: Columbia
Ship Type: Dampfschiff
Shipping Company: Hamburg-Amerika Linie (Hamburg-Amerikanische Packetfahrt-Actien-Gesellschaft)
Agent: Hamburg-Amerika Linie (Hamburg-Amerikanische Packetfahrt-Actien-Gesellschaft)
Country Flag of Ship: Deutschland

On November 7, 1901 on the Manifest of the ship Columbia sailing from Hamburg to New York
0016 Schreib, Carl , 32 years
0017 Schreib, Margarethe, 32 years
0018 Schreib, Martha (aged 2 years 6 months)
The purpose of their visit was listed to visit 'brother in law Paul Schwartz' at 259 E 10th St., NY. Karl had $1600 with him. Previous time spent in the USA was 3 years for Karl and 5 years for Margarethe. Karl's occupation is illegible. Last residence is given as Wittenberge.

When the Boer war was over (1902) and the dynamite factory reopened, Karl returned to South Africa.

US passport application made in Hudson County, NJ dated 27 September 1902 claims that he arrived in the USA 5 January 1886 on the ship Moravia and had been a resident for 16 years and became a naturalized citizen of the United states on 27 Septemeber 1902 in the courts at Hudson, NJ. The passport application was to travel to the Transvaal with the intention of returning in 5 years. Address is given as:
209 Washington St, Jersey City, NJ
Occupation: Machinist
He was 5' 7" with dark brown eyes and dark brown hair aged 33
Naturalized citizen number is 62121
Passport was issued on 29 September 1902

In 1903 or 1904 his wife and daughter went from New York to back to Wilsnack where his wife underwent an operation. After their daughter had attended some school in Wilsnack (school certificate) mother and daughter returned to Modderfontein, South Africa

21 January 1904 leave outside Europe granted until 1905
17 October 1905 leave extended at Perleberg until 1907

15 November 1905 Naturalised as South African (i.e. British). Had by this time been in the Tranvaal for 7 years.
RSA archives:
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22 August 1907 leave extended at Perleberg until 31 March 1908

1908 RSA archives entry;
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REMARKS PREVIOUS PAPERS 61/790. SUBSEQUENT PAPERS 61/804.

Dec. 1930 Trip on steamship "Usambara" from Durban to Cape Town.

Planned to visit his brother and sister in NJ, USA sometime between 1932 and 1935 but fell ill in Germany and did not make it out to the USA - recalled by Marian Gabel who was expecting her mother's uncle to arrive with diamonds in his pockets !

Karl Schreib visited Bad Wilsnack in 1936 for the Golden wedding of Hulda Schreib and Juergen Wiese. It was secretly arranged with Hulda Wiese as a surprise visit.
Made first 'phone call to South Africa from Berlin Games in 1936. (Source Letter from Luise Partz January 2000 and repeated in 2004)

Also reported by Ernst Schultz to have visited Japan in 1936. Dale Schultz has a set of postcards he bought there showing the Beppu hot springs, a ship called Murasaki Maru, The Yamato Hotel - Kobe, Nunobiki Waterfall, Meriken hatoba - Kobe, Mikassayama hill - Nara

There is a record of him sailing from Durban to Southampton arriving on 23 April 1936

Worked in engine room at Modderfontein Dynamite factory. Did some farming near Modderfontein. Then 8th St. Vrededorp. Painter. Magnetopath.

Notes from his grandson:
OUPA CARL SCHREIB - MAGNETOPATH
Oupa's career as a Magnetopath started when his friend Doweling decided to go to America.
Doweling, who had been in P.O.W. camp, in Ceylon I think, arrived at Oupa's house, 8th St. Vrededorp, Johannesburg, sometime after WW1, with a request - Would Oupa let him use their lounge as his room for treatment of patients ?
Doweling was a very good Magnetopath ( healing by passing of hands) & knew Oupa from earlier acquaintance, & , incidentally, that Oupa's father had been a Magnetopath (part-time ?) in Germany.
Soon Doweling had made enough money to buy a plot almost over the road from Oupa's house, & he built a house with an enormous lounge-come-waiting room, with a screen in one corner where he did some treatments. He went back to Germany to get a wife, & in due course they had a little girl.
When we visited Oupa & Ouma, I would go over & play with their daughter ; I was 4 or 5, & she was a little younger. At that stage Doweling was so successful , I can remember a long queue of people on the pavement, 4 deep, waiting to get treated. Running around their house in play, I remember seeing Doweling in his room, which was lined with chairs on all the walls, full of people sitting awaiting their turn. Doweling would stand in front of a person, pass his hands slowly, but not touching , from head to knees over that person. Each received a few minutes, then the next one. As one person went out, another came in.
Magnetpopaths are not recognized in S. Afrca, as they are in Germany & U.S.A. People made "donations", any amount.
For those who lived far away, Doweling , & later Oupa, in their spare time, would roll out rolls of cotton-wool, teat them, & roll them up again. When a person needed treatment, they placed the cotton-wool on themselves. I do not know how long such a roll is effective, but they were popular.
Doweling went to California, where he could charge for services. When he had gone, people would pitch up at Oupa's place, asking for Doweling, then pleading for help -
Oupa did what he could.
After a while, he gave up House-decorating, carrying his own ladder from job to job, for full-time Healing. He had some amazing successes, & over the years had thousands of patients - some came after their own Doctors said "try Mr. Schreib !" Oupa was good, no doubt about that. He could tell, by passing a hand near you, whether you had a head-ache or a stomach-ache.
When I was a schoolboy, I often used to walk from Menton Rd,. to 8th St., on a Saturday morning, to do odd jobs, chopping mountains of fire-wood, occasionally cutting his toe-nails - he couldn't reach his toes too well in later years. They had a lovely German shepherd dog, Prince. After Prince died, I sometimes took our dog Rex with me on my walk to Vrededorp.
When I had passed Matric. I applied for a bursary from the Johannesburg Council, to become a pupil-engineer with them. I was pipped at the post in that matter, then Oupa stepped in - he would pay for University fees - on one condition - if I start, I must finish !
And so it was that I went to Wits. University, for 4 years, & graduated as BSc. Eng.(Civil). I wonder where I would be if Oupa hadn't lent his lounge to Doweling---
NB: the spelling of "Doweling" may not be correct.

RSA archive:
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REMARKS SURVIVING SPOUSE MARGARETHA SCHREIB (BORN STANGE).

Ashes are at Brixton cemetery, Johannesburg, South Africa

[107] Ellis Island entry says "builder" but is overwritten with something else also, perhaps Machine builder.